Hi Hans.
I think you are right about the 50% deal due to the amount but will try anyway.
The bank already did lots of them got me £32000 back recently so they are covered but its getting them to come to the table again I am more than willing to be 100% honest in that having so much money I had a relapse and try it.
Mastercard direct yes a waste of time.
I will try to contact the merchants as I have already had chargebacks against Ellegro through the bank so thats a possibility !
smpaypf* is a similar merchant name to nikotpf* that are linked to Elegro, might be worth emailing them: support@elegro.eu
Another way of checking the payment provider is, if you still have your Kinghills account, go to the deposit bit and pretend as if you're depositing, once it asks for card details you can right click and inspect element (on a computer) and often opening up all the arrows it eventually shows the website which it's redirecting to, this usually tells you who's processing the transaction and you can email them for transaction laundering.
Can you tell me more about this?
If you see the picture belove, where to I click?
Inspector-console-debugger-network-style editor-performance or editor?
To se who is processing the transaction?
I reckon my ones the person is using sum up pay as below
That is very suspicious you get taxi drivers and buskers etc use it to take payments not something associated with big online casinos
As I see it there are 3 ways you can go.
1: Contact the casino and try to make a deal, for an exempel offer them 50% and say that you wont do any chargeback. This is probably close to impossible
2: Contact VISA/Mastercard directly. No chance, I havnt read one post yet where they have solve the issue?
3: Go direkt via your bank. Sure possible from couple of the brittish writers here but in 95% the bank just say go fu*k yourself
4: Still and probably the only chance is by go direkctly to the mechant except QuickBit or Grottobook they are impossible, but this is the only way and if you have luck they help you. In my case it has been done in around 25% of the companies.
I spoke to Mastercard directly as Revolut were being stupid - explained the situation to them and they confirmed in writing their stance for the ombudsman. I don't think it is something they do often though!
That's interesting, how did you contact them? I have an ongoing complaint to the Ombudsman, I think this could really help.
Hi,
It should be under the inspector tab. There will be lots of code, you have to try and unpack it all to figure out where the redirect URL is, but it should be in there somewhere.
That's interesting, how did you contact them? I have an ongoing complaint to the Ombudsman, I think this could really help.
Phoned them - they sent a response straight to the bank/Ombudsman. Took forever on the phone and I think they may like to fob you off with "its up to your bank". Worth a go for you I suppose.
No worries - Thank you!
The bank seems to have blocked this smpay thing but it auto retries as something else and in euro not gbp ive seen this before it keeps trying until it gets one that works so I came back out incase the bank blocks me
Hi Hans
smpayPF*SkinsOnly and smpayPF*MagicInc I could see sum up flash on screen during payment so surmise this is being used or could it be this
Deposit
Bite News
SmPayPF*Maginc
Still having trouble find this 3 ones
Could SmPay = Elegro? And Could Byte News be = - smartpayments.ee?
Im not sure Hans possibly may be better to try them all to see how it goes
Im just looking forward to a good nights sleep tonight bed was on fire last night horrible ! most of my £10000 are pending 3 have cleared found another on apple pay looks a more legit one probably they go to dodgy methods as apple pay only worked once
I emailed them to ask if my payments are anything to do with them and sent bank screenshots
Might be worth trying to see who that 'agpayer.com' is.
Who did you email?
Hans on smpayglobal there is an email. 
I tried it leads to a dead link on apple pay will do a search
Hi Hans
smpayPF*SkinsOnly and smpayPF*MagicInc I could see sum up flash on screen during payment so surmise this is being used or could it be this
Great job!!
Al Logo Creator = get-ai.world
Then smpayPF*SkinsOnly and smpayPF*MagicInc = http://smpayglobal.com/payment-wallet/
This seems to be a big (and legit?) company based in India... could be hard get any succes with indians.
Then i need to find "DEPOSIT" and "BYTE News" I think that Byte News" could be https://smartpayments.ee/ or https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11381729/officers
I have receivd 2000 euro back from "CSH Topup"
Just for the record.
Not sure if it is done by my bank or by the mercant.
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