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Westernbrother
vor 3 Monaten

My bank wasn't having any of it even though I had gambiling blocks and international transaction blocks on my card they won't except responsibility as they said I authorised the transactions. Even though they where fraudulent and they used fraudulent means to override the system to obtain funds

vor 3 Monaten

Hey,


New to the party. I successfully chargedback £850 with Wintermads and £500 with Enygma SAS.


anyone have contact info for ZDPG?


also, I have emailed canapay but need a better template if anyone has one?

vor 3 Monaten

Ps, what’s the discord? Need help with MYDATES 🙂

Loohis
vor 3 Monaten

How did you get in contact with Enygma Sas? Or did you do a chargeback though your bank? Thanks

Lucid_1337
vor 3 Monaten

Hey! Sadly, it was directly through my bank. Told them I bought gift cards and they didn’t work in my country/never arrived. They refunded me in 24 hours.

Lucid_1337
vor 3 Monaten

Not sure about discord etc.

I think going through the chargeback option is the best way forward now. Reading through the Visa and Mastercard terms and conditions on top of the chargeback rules and regulations regarding merchant codes. It appears that certain banks are reluctant to follow through the chargeback simply because of a lack of understanding around the subject, which is ironic but understandable.

You just need to simplify it, services not received and its for them to prove that they provided a service to you. If they so much as dare to challenge the chargeback you can then hit them with the Visa and Mastercard guidelines such as 12.7 Incorrect Codes. Which has a penalty of £25,000 per transaction with an incorrect code.

Followed by standing your ground as to no services received and you will win.

It will never get to a point where they go to arbitration because they will be fu@ed.



Joddd
vor 3 Monaten

Who do you bank with? What did you actually say to them?

Westernbrother
vor 3 Monaten

Just said I purchased giftcards online from alottoplay.com (it’s a front for some gambling websites). Said they didn’t work. They asked for me to prove I asked for a refund - I did on live chat, they obviously said no refunds. TSB then charged back!

Westernbrother
vor 3 Monaten

Sandander. I have just been on phone with them and challenged them to the charge back. They said that lots of websites use various merchants I said not gambiling sites like dating merchants and books ect. It's bloody money laundering and it's all registered to same company. Now are you going to do something about it? As you allowed the transaction to go through as I had blocks ony cards so I also mentioned the 21.7 incorrect codes. So they have done a charge back for every transaction but I don't if it will go through as its sandander. If they don't sort it I will take them. To the FO

Joddd
vor 3 Monaten

Well done for standing your ground and referring to the visa and mastercard directly, it ties there hands and they then need to go ahead with the chargeback. The good thing is that if the third party does dispute it, it opens a can of worms for them so it is not in their best interest. How much did you chargeback for? Was it just the one transaction?

Jaro
vor 3 Monaten

Any update?

vor 3 Monaten

I received a response today from Curve bank. I also spoke at length to a friend of mine who works mid level at a bank. Curve said to me that they have gone ahead with the chargeback request for 12 payments totalling £8000. They stated that they had to talk to someone at mastercard regarding the regulations and that they were interested. Nevertheless chargeback initiated. Spoke to my friend who stated that if there is any pushback then the offshore casino will have to declare themselves and the bank will have to report them to the NCA, FCA and UKGC which will go after the casinos as opposed to the vulnerable players. From a legal point there is zero that the casinos can do to players who they have defrauded and targeted. I urge everyone to read the Visa and Mastercard rules, speak to your bank and contact action fraud with the full story and get a reference number. Its up to you if you want to contact the merchants to give them an option to refund, but especially in the UK the rules are clear and in your favour.

vor 3 Monaten

Drei Fragen.


Meine erste Frage.

Hat jemand Erfolg mit einer Rückbuchung von einer schwedischen Bank gehabt? Ich warte seit einem Monat auf die Antwort der Swedbank.

Hat jemand Erfolg mit Grotobook/mydates gehabt?


Letzte Frage. Kann man bei Revolut eine Rückbuchung vornehmen, wenn auf der Transaktion ausdrücklich „Winzie" steht? Wenn die Antwort ja lautet. Wie kann man bei Revolut eine Rückbuchung vornehmen? Ich finde mich in der App nicht wirklich zurecht.

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DynamoHarry
vor 3 Monaten

Yes - I charged back with Revolut but then they sadly closed my account. You just click the transaction I recall? Or ask on the chat.


I need help with MYDATES too! I contacted Grotobook and MyDates but they said it isn’t them and it’s a front

Westernbrother
vor 3 Monaten

No I gave the casino the opertunity to give me the deposits back from.when I requested account closure and they ignored my request and allowed me to deposit 1400£ in less than 12 hrs I played for 24hrs straight until I fell asleep in that 24hr period and £700 of total dead spins, I only ever play 1 game on any site big bass splash keeping it reel so I am very knowledgeable on how game plays. I was playing €1.05 a spin as I said €700 of dead spins so I knew something was up as I should have definetly got a bonus as the bonus extra was on

I came out of game only to find I wasn't even logged in I was seething when I logged back in the wins where so low pittance on bonus round 0.70 2.40 and 8.90 9.20. When I found out they didn't have a licence and the bank flagged these weird transactions and they never closed my account after I wrote an email telling them. I had serious health issues and suffer from. Mental heath and to shut my account straight away and they didn't. They are illegally committing a breach of their licence and I want my deposits back as they took. Money by fraudulent activities as I had blocks ony account they ignored my numerous emails after a number of attempts. I even linked the emails together with the merchants customer service that I found and they never responded either. So 5hey had their chance to rectify the situation. So it's now all of them.

Joddd
vor 3 Monaten

I totally understand your frustrations. It seems Santander has now processed your chargeback request so this should all go smoothly you just need to be patient. I dont think you will get any issues but should something come up go to your GP for the mental health side of things so its on the record so if there is any push back you can complain to the Financial Ombudsman Service who will force Santander to do the chargeback due to your vulnerability. You have three months to bring any chargeback disputes at a minimum. You need to be protected by these rogue casinos and your bank needs to protect you.

DynamoHarry
vor 3 Monaten

Aus welchem Grund sollten Sie Ihrer Meinung nach eine Rückbuchung vornehmen können, wenn auf der Transaktion Winzie steht? Oder ich meine, warum stellen Sie diese Frage überhaupt …



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Loohis
vor 3 Monaten

That's handy to know as I haven't had a response from. Them as I have over 15 transaction s from grotbooks & mydate

Westernbrother
vor 3 Monaten

I am already under the mental health team.

Loohis
vor 3 Monaten

MYDATES is processed through cosmo.tech then diverted through a company called cleanpay.

Hope this helps

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