I originally played on this site via computer, but later tried from phone and said the site was blocked in my country. (It also gives that status if you click on mobile version on computer). When I asked if it it was legal via live chat they gave an automated message of it being my duty to find out.
Though gambling is legal in general, I question how I'm supposed to figure out if that particular website is.
When I was talking to them through e-mail, they asked if I was using VPN. Naturally I said no, since... it's generally considered against rules and can get your account confiscated in lots of places.
It was then that they stopped responding to me entirely.
For instance, a site like 1xbet claims to have been available in my country (at one point???), but I could never access their site on either mobile or computer. While this site only has that message from their mobile version.
Frankly, I don't know what to say or think. If it was not legal in my country, I'd expect some sort of reimbursement for my losses (not a lot but still a lot to me 150euro or so) since they accepted me, but what do I know. Sketchy as heck they just stopped responding to me though.
Well,
I will reduce the question of legality to a short explanation:
The site is not licensed in Sweeden, so you should not play there. If the casino decides to accept players from Sweeden, they should be treated fairly, so all rightfully accumulated winnings should be paid.
To make sure which sites are officially available to players from Sweeden, kindly check this link - tab called SE licensed
The casino staff should at least informed you, that you can play but it lacks the SE license. No matter the license, however, you must have the same chance of winning and losing as other players, so would you ask for reimbursement, even if you won?
Furthermore, the blockage is probably caused by your internet provider because the site is restricted from Sweeden, another sign that you should not play in such casinos. Sadly, not every unlicensed casinos are automatically blocked.
You kind of missed or misunderstood half my post.
You say that it's my ISP that is blocking it, but why would it be blocked on my phone but NOT my computer when I'm accessing both via WIFI. That and I mentioned that clicking on mobile version on their site on their computer would trigger the same message as in it pertains that it is only their mobile version for whatever reason.
And then them stop replying to me the second I'm asked if I use a VPN? That's just messed up.
And I would think that legality supersedes any chance of equality since people aren't equal if they aren't all legally allowed the same access. Of course proving that would be not something I'd be familiar with anyways.
Hello,
I did not skip it, I just mention my opinion, so furthermore, from my personal experience, the internet block does not work pretty well when you try to access some casinos via mobile - sorry, I failed to mention that.
But I'm not the casino's employee, nor the internet provider, so I', just thinking aloud, you don't have to feel offended by my opinion at all 🙂.
Sadly, I don't fully comprehended this part "And then them stop replying to me the second I'm asked if I use a VPN? That's just messed up."
I feel that the casino failed to provide a proper explanation of whether you can or can't use the VPN, right?
That is of course a bad situation and I agree that it does not show this casino in a good light. Speaking about the good or bad sides, this casino has only a questionable reputation.
It seems that the casino should improve a bit!
Well, I suppose there will always be outliers when it comes to different devices.
And what I meant by stop responding is that, the last thing they wrote was asking me if I used VPN. (as if it were against their rules)
There was literally no reply after that to my replies. There wasn't even an attempt to explain.
"Hello Remy,
Thank you for contacting us,
Are you using vpn (Virtual private network)?, by the time you want to access internet?
Thank you.
Br,
Helabet Team."
Was the last message. Couldn't even be bothered to blame me. Sadly.
And I can't recall if or where I had checked to see if they were a site worth going to.
Was my mistake for not digging enough, though I know you should never believe a lot of things you see regardless because everything is biased towards free stuff.
I think that for next time it will be generally better to ask more questions on live chat before starting the game and clarify the discrepancies so that you are sure under what conditions you are playing. I understand, that when it seems first, that you are allowed to play on computer, so you probably don't even doubt that it could be banned in your country if it lets you play. As you say, the proper research is always necessary before.
Considering the copy & paste automated messages I got while attempting to talk to them via live chat, it is unlikely that I would have gotten a satisfactory answer. When they literally tell me that it is my responsibility to figure it out, when I specifically asked if I was allowed to access their site. You'd think they'd know better than me where they are allowed to sell their services.
Again, I understand that it is hindsight and not something one should have to think of.
Well, regardless. I admit it as my fault for having gone to a questionable site as theirs.
I can only hope that I listen to myself in the future and only access sites that are bound by bankid or at least higher standards. The less worries about having to be verified (or the stress thereof - since some clearly don't want to despite happily taking your money) and safe gaming the better.
Hi, I agree that their chat responses were not the most appropriate and I'm sorry that you had such an unpleasant experience, but as Radka said above "if the casino decides to accept players from Sweden, they should be treated fairly". I also hope that in the future you will choose safe and reliable casinos as you write here. Just check this page, you can filter casinos here via your preferences. Maybe you find new casino which fits you and you come back to us with more cheerful post. 😉. Good luck
Hallo, ich habe diesen Thread erstellt, um mir beim Abheben meines Geldes zu helfen. Ich bin ein Spieler aus Argentinien, der sein Geld abheben möchte, und das HELABET-Casino lässt mich nicht zu. Insgesamt habe ich seit der Erstellung meines Kontos ungefähr 45/50 USDT eingezahlt (zwischen Gewinne und Verluste, heute ist das Konto bei 79USDT (viel Geld hier in Argentinien) und ich muss das Geld dringend abheben, ich habe mit der CRYPTOGRAPHIC-Methode (TRC20) eingezahlt.
Ich möchte mit der gleichen Methode und auf das gleiche Wallet abheben, mit dem ich die Einzahlung getätigt habe, und das Casino sagt mir „OHNE ABLEHNEN VOM BETREIBER".
SENDEN SIE MEINE BESCHWERDE AN EINEN VIRTUELLEN CASINO-BETREIBER
WAS MIR SAGT: „ICH HABE EINE E-MAIL MIT IHREM PROBLEM UND EINEM SCREENSHOT AN DIE HELABET-SUPPORT-E-MAIL GESCHICKT."
Ich habe das Gleiche getan und bereits mehr als 6 E-Mails mit dem entsprechenden Screenshot verschickt, ich habe keine Antwort erhalten und ich brauche wirklich mein Geld, es ist sehr wenig Geld für „Europa", aber für mich, da ich Argentinier bin, es ist zu viel...
Ich habe den Fall eines polnischen Spielers gelesen, dem genau dasselbe passierte wie mir, und es dauerte anderthalb Monate, bis er aussteigen konnte. Wenn mir bitte jemand helfen kann, wäre ich dankbar.
Hi, did the casino give you any reason why you can't withdraw your money and why is the withdrawal still rejected ? I think you thought well when you wanted to withdraw as well as you deposited. Do you have a verified casino account ?
However, I saw that you managed to open a complaint with us and I think that is a good step. Our team will take a look at the situation and try to help you. If you have any new information don't hesitate to update us.
Hallo, nein, sie geben mir keinerlei Antwort, niemand antwortet auf meine E-Mails und sie haben mir keine E-Mail mit der Aufschrift „Wir benötigen eine bestimmte Menge an Dokumentation, um es überprüfen zu können" geschickt, also tue ich es nicht. Ich weiß nicht, was ich senden soll, um es tun zu können. Auf anderen Seiten, wenn ich zurücktreten möchte, wurde ich immer um eine Bestätigung gebeten, ich habe es getan und das war's, ich habe mich zurückgezogen, aber hier antworten sie nicht einmal auf meine E-Mails, also Ich bin völlig verloren und ohne zu wissen, was sie von mir brauchen, um sich verifizieren zu können, lassen sie mich nicht direkt einzahlen, sie lassen mich auch nicht wetten, kein Match, und beim Abheben bekomme ich einen Fehler ... Aber Ich kann ganz normal weiter auf mein Konto zugreifen und das Geld ist immer noch da
Well, this is a really frustrating situation, since on one side the verification is probably a necessary first step, allowing you to withdraw your winnings once it's successfully completed. On the other hand, this process should be initiated by the casino or at least you should be told what you are supposed to provide.
I did consult the casino's rules and found this
27. KYC Policy - verifying your credential
In order to prevent possible online fraud, we reserve the right at any time to verify the authenticity of your credentials, such as your name, address, age and payment methods that you use, requiring you to submit all the necessary documents for this verification.
These documents usually include proof of your identity, your residential address (such as a utility bill), and the method of payment you are using.
IDENTITY DOCUMENTS:
Photo ID. A copy of this document is required to process your first withdrawal request. This could be a copy of your passport, driver's license, or other proof of your identity. To verify your identity, we require a photo of your identity document.
Credit / Debit Cards: Copies of the front and back of the credit / debit card that you used to deposit into your gaming account. Before submitting a copy of your credit / debit card, please make sure it is easy to read so that we can verify your identity as soon as possible. For security reasons, cover the middle eight digits on the copy of the front of your card and the 3 digits of the security code on the copy of the back.
Proof of Address: For this purpose, you can send us your utility bill or credit card statement. This document should be recently received by you, and it should clearly show your full name and address, which you provided when registering your game account. If you are going to provide a credit card statement, you should cover the middle 8 digits of your card for security.
Notarized Documents: Your documents must be certified by the signature and stamp of an authorized notary / legal counsel to prove the legality of the documents you provide.
Attention! In some cases, depending on the method of payment that you used to make a deposit, you may be asked to provide one or more of the above documents or other additional documents not included in this list.
The player undertakes to provide information within 48 hours of receiving the request. These documents can be downloaded in your personal account. We reserve the right not to report successful verification results.
If the player refuses or ignores our request for the provision of these documents, the Company may, at its discretion, close his account and withhold all the money that will be in his game account.
If the documents you send us do not pass our internal security checks, for example if we suspect that you have sent us fraudulent documents, or that your documents contain falsified information or have been provided to us for the purpose of misleading, we will not must treat these documents as legitimate and inform you about this decision.
The verification process can take up to 48 hours. As part of the verification process, we retain the discretion to limit the withdrawal of funds from the Customer’s account. The Company is not responsible for any delays in processing payments that may occur within a processing of KYC documents by our managers.
I suggest you try the chat operator or just wait a bit for support to respond. With luck, the operator will engage in conversation with you:
Could you please try the chat out and then let me know?
Hallo Radka, ich habe gerade versucht, mich in mein Konto einzuloggen, und es wird mir immer wieder „Codefehler" angezeigt, wenn ich den Google-Authentifikatorcode eingeben möchte, da ich über eine solche Sicherheit verfüge, habe ich mich gestern ohne Probleme durch Eingabe meines Codes angemeldet, und Überraschung, heute kann ich mich nicht einloggen, ich versuche es schon seit mehr als einer Stunde und es gibt keine Möglichkeit, sie haben buchstäblich mein Geld behalten, Casino-Müll
Phew, that's not nice if I'm honest. You still can't log into your account, can you? As for the chat, I suppose if you couldn't log in you didn't even try it, or am I wrong ? As I read that no email was sent to you by the casino and they did not reply, I am not sure if it would be the case now if you had asked why this situation occurred.
However, I am glad that you have an open complaint as our team will try to help you. I hope it can all be resolved eventually. If there is any new information, please let me know.
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