vor 5 Monaten
Ja. Aber dieses Casino glaubt, dass es ein und dieselbe PSP ist - Astropay.
Aber auf meinem Kontoauszug steht mehrere verschiedene Zahlungskarten.. und auch andere Anbieter? D
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Question about Gambling websites with Curaçao license using incorrect Merchant Category code (Seite 95)
vor 5 Monaten
Ja. Aber dieses Casino glaubt, dass es ein und dieselbe PSP ist - Astropay.
Aber auf meinem Kontoauszug steht mehrere verschiedene Zahlungskarten.. und auch andere Anbieter? D
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vor 5 Monaten
Don't think there is much you can do.
Astropay been in the game a long time, they most likely don't care.
If you have none of the mentioned merchant names on your statement, there is nothing you can do. There is really no one really processing refunds anymore.
Best you can do is just stop giving away your hard earned money to these casinos.
vor 5 Monaten
Aber hat hier jemand Astropay ausprobiert?
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vor 5 Monaten
hello do you have contacts for Fatamp, Topcom, Tsinda limited, Altaprime Limited, Steam sync, Stacs ltd, Cloud energy photoelec. if you can help me thank you
vor 5 Monaten
Tsinda = Info@tsindagamers.com
https://www.norrsken.org/contact
kigali@norrsken.org / info@norrsken.org
Norrsken are the ones who rent the premises to them.
Ive emailed both, no answer at all 🙁 would be awesome if more people would help 🙂
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vor 5 Monaten
norrsken = norrsken foundation. Its some kind of Swedish non-profit started by one of the founders of Klarna. Maybe it could be worth reaching out to them directly and ask why they are renting offices to companies involved with unlicensed gambling/ money laundering.
"NORRSKEN IS AN IMPACT ECOSYSTEM WHERE ENTREPRENEURS CAN FIND EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO MAKE SAVING THE WORLD THEIR BUSINESS"
yep tsinda gamers is clearly saving the world lol
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vor 4 Monaten
Habe einen APERATOR und ALPASTRIKE
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vor 4 Monaten
I have been contacted today by two merchants that are refusing refunds and have specifically referred to the forum.
With nearly 85k views the casinos and merchants are starting to get all over this Legitimate refunds are going to become a lot harder
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vor 4 Monaten
Es wäre lustig gewesen zu wissen, wer diese beiden sind 🙂
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vor 4 Monaten
I have been contacted today by two merchants that are refusing refunds and have specifically referred to the forum.
With nearly 85k views the casinos and merchants are starting to get all over this Legitimate refunds are going to become a lot harder
vor 4 Monaten
Haven't really been any refunds in quite long time though, has it?
But people don't seem to be reading more than like 1-2 or two comments, see something about about refunds mentioned and think they can get all their money back.
Like been said many times, refunds are not the win here, the win here is to learn how casinos are abusing payments, acting like criminals, money laundering, etc. And hopefully (probably not), this will make anyone think one step further and stop playing at these casinos. We are all just sponsoring criminals, Russians, and other trashy people to live a life of luxury.
Invest in yourself instead of giving your money away.
vor 4 Monaten
Playing at these casinos is essentially supporting organized crime. Nothing else. You are dealing with the dirtiest individuals imaginable. The verification and payment processes are excessively long, and your money often ends up with unknown companies. There is a glaring lack of responsible gambling measures. These unlicensed casinos represent the worst aspects of the industry, including fraudulent activities, poor security, and no player protection.
vor 4 Monaten
After 15 years and untold amounts of losses to these crooks, I finally realize that they are, always have been, and alway will be scams. It's embarrassing to have come to this realization.
Fighting back by challenging their shady payment practices is fair play, so long as you are honest. But, shady payments is only tip of the iceberg and, by themselves, do not scratch the surface as to why these casinos are scams. In fact, you can have shady payment practices and still run an honest casino.
The cancellation of winnings for any reason they can contrive is the wildest and most crooked part of the scam. What I resent the most, and am most embarrassed about, is how they gaslight the player. You win, they don't pay you, and they act like you have done something wrong.
Here's an example of why this is so problematic. Suppose, for arguments sake, you enter the wrong zip code by accident when you sign up. You play on the site and lose $1000. Then, you make one more deposit and get lucky hitting for $2000. You request a withdrawal, submit your paperwork. They notice you used the incorrect zip code when you signed up, and say, for security reasons, that your wins are nullified because of this.
The issue with this example is, 1) many of us have had similar experiences for equally as minor or insane reasons and, 2) this means that you were never really gambling at all with the first $1000 you lost because there was never the possibility of winning as any win would eventually be disqualified. So, you did not get the service you paid for, every dollar you deposited was always going to be forfeited.
If these casinos were operating in the US, they would be subject to a massive class action lawsuit for such practices. They are scams.
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vor 4 Monaten
After 15 years and untold amounts of losses to these crooks, I finally realize that they are, always have been, and alway will be scams. It's embarrassing to have come to this realization.
Fighting back by challenging their shady payment practices is fair play, so long as you are honest. But, shady payments is only tip of the iceberg and, by themselves, do not scratch the surface as to why these casinos are scams. In fact, you can have shady payment practices and still run an honest casino.
The cancellation of winnings for any reason they can contrive is the wildest and most crooked part of the scam. What I resent the most, and am most embarrassed about, is how they gaslight the player. You win, they don't pay you, and they act like you have done something wrong.
Here's an example of why this is so problematic. Suppose, for arguments sake, you enter the wrong zip code by accident when you sign up. You play on the site and lose $1000. Then, you make one more deposit and get lucky hitting for $2000. You request a withdrawal, submit your paperwork. They notice you used the incorrect zip code when you signed up, and say, for security reasons, that your wins are nullified because of this.
The issue with this example is, 1) many of us have had similar experiences for equally as minor or insane reasons and, 2) this means that you were never really gambling at all with the first $1000 you lost because there was never the possibility of winning as any win would eventually be disqualified. So, you did not get the service you paid for, every dollar you deposited was always going to be forfeited.
If these casinos were operating in the US, they would be subject to a massive class action lawsuit for such practices. They are scams.
vor 4 Monaten
Yea, exactly. There is 0 protection against this.
That is why it feels so good to have stopped the gambling on all these shit casinos, over 30 days now without playing and 0 interest to continue. My block on my Swedish license even passed and I just re-blocked myself. so that¨s also nice. I was never extremely gambling addicted, just very bored a lot of the times, but I think it was just an evil cycle that now is broken finally.
I sleep better, I feel better, I save more, I have more to spend on myself. Everything is just better.
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vor 4 Monaten
I second what you’re saying. I put in two complaints to casino guru regarding two Curacao casinos on here and both times they favoured the casinos. Both instances were cases of where the two said casinos had allowed me to become fully KYC verified allowed me to deposit only to be told when requesting withdrawel I was from a restricted country and this was not possible. Casino Guru sided with the casino ( NINECASINO).
I then reported it to their licensing authority and I was refunded my deposits instantly yet casino guru made me feel I was in the wrong. 🤔
vor 4 Monaten
I second what you’re saying. I put in two complaints to casino guru regarding two Curacao casinos on here and both times they favoured the casinos. Both instances were cases of where the two said casinos had allowed me to become fully KYC verified allowed me to deposit only to be told when requesting withdrawel I was from a restricted country and this was not possible. Casino Guru sided with the casino ( NINECASINO).
I then reported it to their licensing authority and I was refunded my deposits instantly yet casino guru made me feel I was in the wrong. 🤔
vor 4 Monaten
Right. And how many people from your country have made deposits, lost, and never knew they were never getting paid if they won? It is a despicable business practice.
vor 4 Monaten
It is totally scandalous and we are being set up to lose
vor 4 Monaten
I second what you’re saying. I put in two complaints to casino guru regarding two Curacao casinos on here and both times they favoured the casinos. Both instances were cases of where the two said casinos had allowed me to become fully KYC verified allowed me to deposit only to be told when requesting withdrawel I was from a restricted country and this was not possible. Casino Guru sided with the casino ( NINECASINO).
I then reported it to their licensing authority and I was refunded my deposits instantly yet casino guru made me feel I was in the wrong. 🤔
vor 4 Monaten
Absolut verrückt, wenn das wahr ist. Wusste casino.guru, dass Sie aus einem verbotenen Land spielten und das Casino trotzdem Ihr Geld nahm? Das Casino war in einer Win-Win-Situation und hat trotzdem Recht behalten. Es fällt mir schwer, das zu glauben, und ich meine absolut nicht, dass Sie lügen. Können Sie diesen Fall verlinken?
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loisjefferies98
vor 4 Monaten
Sie haben aufgehört zu zahlen. Du bist zu spät, um an Bord zu springen. Leider. Hoffentlich war es nicht zu viel Geld für dich
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vor 4 Monaten
Astropay sagt, dass bereits getätigte Zahlungen nicht zurückerstattet werden können.
das haben sie gesagt:
„Es spielt keine Rolle, wo das Geld eingezahlt wurde, solange es dem Casino gutgeschrieben wurde"
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