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phoenix347

Hi, do you see this happening at multiple casinos? Well, maybe it's not so convenient for them and that's why they resort to it. 

Anyway, do you often play with bonuses? Sometimes it seems to me that they are more of a detriment than a benefit to the players because the problems that set them up are often because of them.

What do you think?🤔

phoenix347

Ich sehe das genauso, die RTP der Slots liegen im untersten Bereich egal ob ich jetzt 25€ oder 500€ einzahle, es rattert einfach nur so runter Features gibt es gar nicht mehr...das macht keinen Spaß mehr... aber ich glaube nicht das es was mit den Wahlen in Amerika zu tun hat.

I feel your pain, saw measurable differences since Mar 24, I have some thoughts on this change.

1. Lower RTP games at 94% and less, factor in house edge and it's more like 86%

2. The use of AI is another possible issue.

3. Large brands sharing data, certain there is an investment in data mining.

4. More regulation and controls on players, results in greater control to the casino.

5. With so many casinos online today, greater competition in the industry.

SusieQ

Danke für die Antwort und die Gedanken.

Ich glaube mittlerweile das die Casinos machen was die wollen, Hauptsache Geld und Profit.Sie schließen Casinos und eröffnen neue, anderer Name neue Lizenz irgendwo in offshore country in den Comoren oder der neuen Curacao Behörde die mit Hilfe von KI Lizenzen austellt..Frage mich wer da überwacht geschweige denn kontrolliert.Der Curacao Behörde werden schwere Vorwürfe gemacht, aufgrund von Betrug, Korruption, Geldschieberei bis hin nach Malta.-defacto neue Behörde muss her.Auch ist mir aufgefallen das viele neue Casinos aus dem Boden schießen ohne Lizenz, oft mit gefälschter Software.. Fairplay nicht gegeben. Ich bekomme jede Tag Mails und SMS von fremden Casinos...wo haben die meine Daten ?

Make sure amd check the rtp on games your playing. I dont know if game providers have different versions of slots or if casinos are able to manipulate the rtp, but ive noticed the same game having differt rtp at different casinos.

I first noticed this at winz.io they switched from showing the rtp% of each slot to the house edge%.(its clear to me now they did this so people wouldnt notice the sudden change in rtp%)

I noticed some Games that were over 96% rtp were now showing almost 6% house edge.

They somehow lowered the rtp on many slots from multiple providers. I just stopped playing there and didnt really investigate which all slots but heres an example from Nolimitcity slot Mental. These are both taken after staring the slot in the menu.


file Winz.io


file bitstarz.com

Ive check different casinos and there are lots of variances on same games between different casinos.


My question is if they are able to alter the rtp of slots how do we know its even set at what its listed as???







Well, especially with FairGo I like to play with bonus as in the past I'd get $1500 for a $500 deposit PLUS some FS's, so if I was lucky I could play for hours without having to deposit again. But as I mentioned it doesn't happen any more. With the other casinos I play - the bonuses are not that great, so often I just pass on them.

I know now that this trend in decline doesn't have anything to do with the US election, it was really silly of me. But the timing was just so... weird, as I first noticed the slowdown in payouts early December when the US election was coming out of the tap.

I feel your pain, saw measurable differences since Mar 24, I have some thoughts on this change.

1. Lower RTP games at 94% and less, factor in house edge and it's more like 86%

2. The use of AI is another possible issue.

3. Large brands sharing data, certain there is an investment in data mining.

4. More regulation and controls on players, results in greater control to the casino.

5. With so many casinos online today, greater competition in the industry.

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Anyone tried crypto casinos? How’s the withdrawal process?

I'd like to point out a strange thing with Bitzstarz - my friend and I are in the same city in Australia. The casino accepts Visa from my friend but NOT from me??? LiveChat couldn't give me an explanation so far - it is, what it is...

Can anyone suggest some good paying casinos which are NOT crypto?

I feel your pain, saw measurable differences since Mar 24, I have some thoughts on this change.

1. Lower RTP games at 94% and less, factor in house edge and it's more like 86%

2. The use of AI is another possible issue.

3. Large brands sharing data, certain there is an investment in data mining.

4. More regulation and controls on players, results in greater control to the casino.

5. With so many casinos online today, greater competition in the industry.

Hey, those are pretty interesting points that may have something to do with each other. But the last two are probably the best ones for me out of the ones you described. It's probably not the easiest thing to find an honest casino these days, but when it happens, I always recommend players to stick with it. 

However, a lot of them still want to try new and untested casinos that have just arrived and then it turns out bad way. 

How about you, do you try several of them or do you have some tried and tested ones that you stick to?🙂

Make sure amd check the rtp on games your playing. I dont know if game providers have different versions of slots or if casinos are able to manipulate the rtp, but ive noticed the same game having differt rtp at different casinos.

I first noticed this at winz.io they switched from showing the rtp% of each slot to the house edge%.(its clear to me now they did this so people wouldnt notice the sudden change in rtp%)

I noticed some Games that were over 96% rtp were now showing almost 6% house edge.

They somehow lowered the rtp on many slots from multiple providers. I just stopped playing there and didnt really investigate which all slots but heres an example from Nolimitcity slot Mental. These are both taken after staring the slot in the menu.


file Winz.io


file bitstarz.com

Ive check different casinos and there are lots of variances on same games between different casinos.


My question is if they are able to alter the rtp of slots how do we know its even set at what its listed as???







Greetings, according to my knowledge, casinos have the option with some providers to choose the RTP they want to have on a given slot. I don't know what all game providers have this but I'm sure I've dealt with this in the past. So it can happen that even normal casinos have a game with a lower or higher RTP. I think that will also be the case in this example you have outlined. The casino is not able to change the RTP on slots by itself, or it would be very difficult and I don't think that if they did it they would have it at 94% but they would put it even lower. 

So that's something I would say on this subject. 😉

I'd like to point out a strange thing with Bitzstarz - my friend and I are in the same city in Australia. The casino accepts Visa from my friend but NOT from me??? LiveChat couldn't give me an explanation so far - it is, what it is...

Can anyone suggest some good paying casinos which are NOT crypto?

Did you also try to write them an email what could be the problem? I would certainly like to know more about this than is possible. Maybe the problem could be some simple thing that could be solved easily. Didn't you try it?

I used to play at certain casinos and always get at least a little something back, but recently, it feels like the odds have shifted. Have you tried anything else recently?

Hello,

I just rejected your edit.

Sadly, we would not permit the addition of links to affiliate websites or casinos per "edit post" here.

I'm sorry.

I also believe that something has changed. I have been playing in various online casinos for over 15 years. In the past you could still achieve really high winnings, if you scored free spins they paid really well. Today it is only a shadow of what it used to be, sessions without triggering free spins even once, when free spins come they pay between 3x - 20x the stake every time. No payouts over a period of months and I'm not talking about sums of over thousands of euros, no, I've become frugal over the years and would pay out if I won just €200.


And what I noticed most is that a session is already pre-calculated from the moment the deposit is made. There is no chance of playing back and forth through "luck", no, these sessions are pre-programmed from the moment you make the first bet so that you can only either win or lose. (Talking about slots, not sport betting or live games though)


This behavior applies across all providers, whether DAMA, Hollycorn, N1 Interactive,...


Things have gotten worse, especially in the last 4 months. Before that, I became aware of it "slowly" over the years, but what's been going on in the last few months is really extreme.


It's really no fun anymore and I'm really thinking about what an alternative would be. Should we go to local casinos more again, will that be more beneficial or is that just an illusion?

Matex0

The RTP should always be controlled by the licensing authority, so if you have any suspicion that something is not right and you can provide proof, you should turn to them.

Only like this can it be somehow controlled, you know.

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