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Evolution Roulette not fair and honest.

vor 1 Jahr von paora
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vor 1 Jahr

I have a question which applies to all online roulette games but it's Evolution 'Live' Roulette which I usually play. Ever played anything in Evolution Roulette which theoretically wins as many sessions as it loses and yet when you play it there it loses EVERY session. I have played so many strategies which are capable of winning but aren't failsafe and can also have losing sessions but to lose all the time while playing on Evolution Roulette tables is beyond ridiculous and dare I say it, crooked!

vor 1 Jahr

I also have strategies which have highs and lows - winning one minute and losing the next. I can watch a game for 300+ spins go through these winning and losing streaks (none of them extreme one way or the other) but I swear that the moment I start playing any of these strategies there comes a rapid and devastating losing run which I am never allowed to recover from.

paora
vor 1 Jahr

Ich spiele nur Evolutions-Roulette. Ich habe eine, die ich seit Jahren ständig spiele. Alles ist genau gleich. Es spielt überhaupt keine Rolle, welches Roulette wir spielen.

In dem Moment, in dem Sie spielen, wird dasselbe Roulette von Tausenden anderer Spieler auf der ganzen Welt gespielt. Und warum würdest du Roulette nur für dich nehmen?!

Der Grund dafür ist, dass ein Spieler, wenn er verliert, immer und IMMER den Schuldigen im Roulette sieht und nicht in sich selbst.

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vor 1 Jahr

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Ich spiele dieses Evolutions-Roulette und kein anderes. Und es brachte mir viele schöne Gewinne. Es gab auch verlorene Spiele, aber die Fehler waren meine.

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zorans71
vor 1 Jahr

When I win a session, I'll agree with you but at the moment the evidence is all on display in my spreadsheets and there definitely is a rapid change in the game EVERYTIME I start putting money down. It gets even worse when I start increasing my bets. Maybe it's the way I play which attracts attention and your way of playing doesn't.

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paora
vor 1 Jahr

Probably because you play for too long, the longer you play, the most likely it is you will give back to the casino everything you have won, have in mind you are always betting -EV, you will always lose in the long run. That's why no matter what betting scheme, staking plan or strategy you are following, you should get your hits and move on, when I play roulette at most I play for about 20 spins, usually covering the zero and 9 numbers to both its left and right, I play it for 5 spins and if I'm winning I move on and if I'm barely breaking even I play a bit more, I usually use 5 to 10% of available balance, which means at max I will lose half of it if the 5 initial spins lose. Rarely I play for more than 30 minutes any game, except for craps. Just get your hits and move on, set a bottomline and a target profit, if you deposit 200 bucks don't expect to withdraw 2000, keep it realistic, don't get too greedy, and if you want to play for a long time just hedge your bets properly to keep you in the table for a long time

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I played this very simple 'strategy' the other day. Betting on repeat dozens which theoretically should win 10 out of 30 spins. So I watched it hover around winning 6 to 14 times for 500 spins. The moment I started betting it dropped to 5 times or even less that a repeat dozen was occuring and that continued for at least 200 spins with it hitting 10 times in 30 spins only very occasionally and very briefly. And I repeat this started happening (like it always does) as soon as I started betting. Playing both repeat dozens AND columns may have been less devastating for me but I wanted to demonstrate a point and just playing the dozens showed it up the way I expected it would.

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paora
vor 1 Jahr

For that 30% implied chance to be accurate you will need hundreds of thousands spins, 500, 2000 spins do not represent the actual chance

vor 1 Jahr

For that 30% implied chance to be accurate you will need hundreds of thousands spins, 500, 2000 spins do not represent the actual chance

vor 1 Jahr

I won't entirely disagree with that but the way it turned so quickly and so brutally on the one of 6 options I chose to play is highly suspect. I should mention my 6 options.

  1. Play repeat dozen
  2. Play repeat column
  3. Play cold dozen
  4. Play cold column
  5. Play inbetween dozen
  6. Play inbetween column

"Inbetween" of course is the dozen or column that hasn't hit last spin or the dozen or column which hasn't taken longest to hit.

The option I chose to play, repeat dozens. was the only one to do really really really badly.

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Probably because you play for too long, the longer you play, the most likely it is you will give back to the casino everything you have won, have in mind you are always betting -EV, you will always lose in the long run. That's why no matter what betting scheme, staking plan or strategy you are following, you should get your hits and move on, when I play roulette at most I play for about 20 spins, usually covering the zero and 9 numbers to both its left and right, I play it for 5 spins and if I'm winning I move on and if I'm barely breaking even I play a bit more, I usually use 5 to 10% of available balance, which means at max I will lose half of it if the 5 initial spins lose. Rarely I play for more than 30 minutes any game, except for craps. Just get your hits and move on, set a bottomline and a target profit, if you deposit 200 bucks don't expect to withdraw 2000, keep it realistic, don't get too greedy, and if you want to play for a long time just hedge your bets properly to keep you in the table for a long time

vor 1 Jahr

I'm talking about playing the same number of spins in any session and losing every time. I don't play every spin only when the percentage of wins drops to a certain point and then I play until it recovers - unfortunately that recovery doesn't happen too often (if ever) when I play. It only recovers when I watch.

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I also think the Evolution software targets players who have freshly joined in - putting them in the red at the beginning. Nothing worse than having to recover a loss before you can think about winning. There's no doubt the software is extremely powerful and extremely clever.

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I won't entirely disagree with that but the way it turned so quickly and so brutally on the one of 6 options I chose to play is highly suspect. I should mention my 6 options.

  1. Play repeat dozen
  2. Play repeat column
  3. Play cold dozen
  4. Play cold column
  5. Play inbetween dozen
  6. Play inbetween column

"Inbetween" of course is the dozen or column that hasn't hit last spin or the dozen or column which hasn't taken longest to hit.

The option I chose to play, repeat dozens. was the only one to do really really really badly.

vor 1 Jahr

I'm going to play all 6 options next - as soon as I've got my spreadsheet set up to help me keep track of when and which option(s) I should be betting on.

paora
vor 1 Jahr

Have you ever tried any other game (baccarat, blackjack)? If roulette isn't working for you, don't stick to it, roulette is a bad RTP game, I would recommend my two favorites instead: baccarat and craps, specially craps. If you feel a game isn't working for you and you are not even enjoying it, don't stick to it

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I also think the Evolution software targets players who have freshly joined in - putting them in the red at the beginning. Nothing worse than having to recover a loss before you can think about winning. There's no doubt the software is extremely powerful and extremely clever.

vor 1 Jahr

There are dozens of players in each table, it would be impossible to target one specifically unless he is the biggest active player, the one placing the largest bets, and manipulating the outcome would only be profitable for the provider if the payout for that single player is higher than the overall payout for the rest of the players, but even if this was true, it's not Evo taking the liability, the liability is on the casinos offering their games, so it wouldn't make much sense to do so, I do suspect live gameshows are ridiculously manipulated in every level, but I'm not 100% sure about the table games. Weird stuff does happen on the table games from time to time and I even have video of it, on baccarat: scanned cards being different than the actual ones on the table, dealer stopping for a long time while the betting round is active for no reason and without explanation provided, bets rejected and casually the bet would have been a winning one and more, but all these events can simply be defined as software malfunctions, which coincidentally only benefit the casinos

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Got my spreadsheet setup and only the opportunity for ONE bet so far after 90 spins - a winning one. What I'm waiting for is the win rate for any of my options to fall below 6 in 30 spins which is the thing I endured when I bet repeat dozens in my last LOSING session for 200 spins. lol

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Got my spreadsheet setup and only the opportunity for ONE bet so far after 90 spins - a winning one. What I'm waiting for is the win rate for any of my options to fall below 6 in 30 spins which is the thing I endured when I bet repeat dozens in my last LOSING session for 200 spins. lol

vor 1 Jahr

I didn't even take that first win ...wasn't ready. I needed to record a few (90) previous spins in my spreadsheet before anything showed up for me to bet on.

vor 1 Jahr

Well so much for that. Just played my newest strategy and got dragged down 20 units in the set number of spins I decided on. In 30 spins after I stopped playing that -20 has been fully recovered by the strategy and is even in credit now. Don't tell me this Evolution software doesn't cheat. lol

PS. I don't even play high stakes which kinda makes it hilarious. I'm a hobby player determined to beat them a little bit sometimes. 🙂


Update: Strategy is now in credit with 9 units up. Of course I'm not a winner because I stopped playing.

Update: Up 17 units now but I have to admit a drop little decrease at times but nothing like the brutal takedown I experienced when I was playing.

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vor 1 Jahr

Ich spiele nur Evolutions-Roulette. Ich habe eine, die ich seit Jahren ständig spiele. Alles ist genau gleich. Es spielt überhaupt keine Rolle, welches Roulette wir spielen.

In dem Moment, in dem Sie spielen, wird dasselbe Roulette von Tausenden anderer Spieler auf der ganzen Welt gespielt. Und warum würdest du Roulette nur für dich nehmen?!

Der Grund dafür ist, dass ein Spieler, wenn er verliert, immer und IMMER den Schuldigen im Roulette sieht und nicht in sich selbst.

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vor 1 Jahr

They only have to target a small percentage of players at any time. As long as they have them playing catchup (in arrears) they can leave those losing players alone and concentrate on making another lot lose.

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Paora...

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sehen,

1. 1700 Spieler spielen derzeit an diesem Tisch.

2. In den letzten 13 Würfen sind 12 Zahlen aus der großen Serie gefallen.

Aber dieser Tisch wird in Hunderten von anderen Casinos verwendet. Die Anzahl der Spieler, die jeden Moment spielen, wird mit Zehntausenden, Hunderten gemessen!!!

Glaubst du, dass dir wirklich jemand mit einigen Zwischeninvestitionen folgen wird?

Natürlich nicht. Niemand wird von der Software verfolgt. Er ist nur für die Auswahl von Zufallszahlen, die Auszahlung von Gewinnen usw. zuständig.

Wie viele Spieler spielten den Big Streak zu der Zeit, als diese 12 Zahlen fielen. Viele, und alle haben gewonnen. Auch in diesem Moment spielten viele Spieler eine kleine Serie, sie verloren. Und natürlich sagen sie arrangiert.

Und alles ist eine Frage der Wahrscheinlichkeit.

Roulette ist ein faires Spiel.

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vor 1 Jahr

Ich spiele nur Evolutions-Roulette. Ich habe eine, die ich seit Jahren ständig spiele. Alles ist genau gleich. Es spielt überhaupt keine Rolle, welches Roulette wir spielen.

In dem Moment, in dem Sie spielen, wird dasselbe Roulette von Tausenden anderer Spieler auf der ganzen Welt gespielt. Und warum würdest du Roulette nur für dich nehmen?!

Der Grund dafür ist, dass ein Spieler, wenn er verliert, immer und IMMER den Schuldigen im Roulette sieht und nicht in sich selbst.

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vor 1 Jahr

Had to come back to this. It's 2000 at most at any evolution roulette table - easily controllable.

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