Frage zu Glücksspiel-Websites mit Curaçao-Lizenz, die einen falschen Händlerkategoriecode verwenden (Seite 93)

So maybe you should still be a little careful, these casinos are run by criminals, probably the mafia.

Alltså man kanske ändå ska vara lite försiktig, dessa casinon drivs ju av kriminella, maffia förmodligen.

In England we use Gamstop to prevent the banks accepting any transactions relating to gambling and below is our law.

It is generally illegal for any online casino, regardless of its jurisdiction, including those based in Curacao, to miscode transactions to bypass regulatory measures such as GamStop. While the specific legal frameworks may vary between countries, the practice of miscoding transactions to circumvent self-exclusion schemes like GamStop constitutes fraudulent activity and deceptive practice.

In the UK, GamStop is a regulatory requirement for licensed online gambling operators, and circumventing it violates UK gambling laws. Even if an online casino operates under a Curacao license, if it serves UK customers and engages in deceptive practices to bypass UK regulations, it is still acting illegally under UK law. Such actions can lead to enforcement actions by the UK Gambling Commission, which could include blocking the website, fines, and other legal consequences.

Moreover, most countries have laws against financial fraud and misrepresentation, which would cover the miscoding of transactions. Engaging in such practices could also result in action from financial institutions and other regulatory bodies in multiple jurisdictions.

If you suspect an online casino from Curacao or any other location is engaging in such practices, it is important to report it to the relevant authorities, such as the UK Gambling Commission and financial regulatory bodies.

What do you think? Careful in what way? What do you think might happen…?

Vad tänker du? Försiktig på vilket sätt? Vad tror du kan hända…?

I think he means.. They're going to wreak havoc with him.. Cut off the ear, cut off the tongue and leave it to Bolisen without the heads 🤣🤣🤣

Tror han menar.. Dom ska göra kaoz med han.. Klippa öra, klippa tung o lämna till Bolisen utan huvuden🤣🤣🤣

I don't think anything special will happen, but I'm just saying that you should keep in mind that it is not doctors or human rights fighters who are behind these pages, but rather criminal clans from Russia and the like.

You should not think that you are dealing with ordinary companies here without organized crime.

Jag tror inte någonting särskilt kommer att hända men jag säger bara att man ska ha med sig att det inte är läkare eller människorättskämpar som står bakom dessa sidor utan det är kriminella klaner ifrån Ryssland och dylikt.

Man ska inte tro att det är vanliga företag man har att göra med här utan organiserad brottslighet.

If you have unique insight into their informal hierarchical organization, supported by concrete evidence, well then you might start to worry a little. A thread full of game cods who can't even find the email addresses of most of their "companies" and can only refer to rules and laws that anyone can google, needn't worry in the slightest. They turn over billions, hardly believe they will send an assassin or make life miserable for people who manage to blow them a few thousand.

Om du har unik insyn i deras informella hierarkiska organisation, understött med konkreta bevis, ja då kan du kanske börja vara lite orolig. En tråd full med speltorskar som inte ens kan hitta mailadresserna till de flesta av deras "företag" och enbart kan hänvisa till regler och lagar som vem som helst kan googla fram, behöver inte oroa sig det minsta. De omsätter miljarder, tror knappast de kommer skicka en lönnmördare eller göra livet surt för personer som lyckas blåsa dem på några tusenlappar.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Swedish bank have to block 7995 transactions if coming from a non Swedish licensed casino. It's nothing we as consumers block ourselves from.

Payment service providers according to the law (2010:751) on payment services must reject payment orders where payment cards are used and authorization takes place through the use of the retail trade code Merchant Category Code (MCC) 7995. However, this does not apply if the payment order refers to an activity that has a license or is registered under the Gambling Act.

Swedish bank have to block 7995 transactions if coming from a non Swedish licensed casino. It's nothing we as consumers block ourself from.

Betaltjänstleverantörer enligt lagen (2010:751) om betaltjänster ska avvisa betalordrar där betalkort används och auktorisation sker genom användning av detaljhandelskoden Merchant Category Code (MCC) 7995. Detta gäller dock inte om betalordern avser en verksamhet som har licens eller är registrerad enligt spellagen.

I think there were one or two Swedish providers discussed here. You should be able to request a refund on the basis of

Worth a try, and for sure should report them everywhere. I think it was quickbit and something else?

Payment service providers according to the law (2010:751) on payment services must reject payment orders where payment cards are used and authorization takes place through the use of the retail trade code Merchant Category Code (MCC) 7995. However, this does not apply if the payment order refers to an activity that has a license or is registered under the Gambling Act.

I think there were one or two swedish providers discussed here. You should be able to request refund on the basis of

Worth a try, and for sure should report them everywhere. I think it was quickbit and something else?

Betaltjänstleverantörer enligt lagen (2010:751) om betaltjänster ska avvisa betalordrar där betalkort används och auktorisation sker genom användning av detaljhandelskoden Merchant Category Code (MCC) 7995. Detta gäller dock inte om betalordern avser en verksamhet som har licens eller är registrerad enligt spellagen.

Quickbit sucks. I don't know anything about the other one

Quickbit skiter i vilket. Den andra vet jag inget om

Just thinking -has anyone reached out to Mastercard/ViSA to ask them If misclassification of MCC codes to bypass gambling blocks, is s valid reason for chargebacks? As I can read in their terms, chargebacks seems to be strictly regulatated by them and needs to fit in to the specified reasons (for example that Gooes/services has not been received). The banks cant really decide themselves, but needs to follow these rules/guidelines.

The bank wrote to me. They follow legislation, the card terms and Mastercard's regulations. So basically the same as what you have read

Banken skrev till mig. Dom följer lagstiftning,Kortvillkoren och Mastercards regelverk. Så i princip samma som det du har läst

I might, you have to be careful. Many have won at the casino and then received a refund of their deposit. It's no joke! They have our address, everything.

Jag kanske ,man ska vara försiktig .Många har vunnit på casino och sen fått återbetalning av insättning .Det är inte till att skoja ! Dem har våras adress ,allt .

Yes exactly - that's why I think that it is above all Mastercard/VISA that should be demanded answers regarding if they consider that misclassification of mcc codes is a valid reason for card complaints. Ultimately, it is they, not the bank, who decide on this. I think that is the key to seriously bringing about a change - they are the ones who need to take a stand on the issue so that the banks can get through the complaints (and as a very positive side effect, that the payment actors and casinos would get black and white what they are doing is not okay and that they will actually be required to refund if they use incorrect mcc codes). This is where we should get together and put the gun down.

Ja exakt -därför tänker jag att det framförallt är Mastercard/VISA man bör avkräva svar gällande om de anser att felklassificering av mcc-koder är en giltigt skäl för kortreklamationer. Det är ju i slutändan de, inte banken, som beslutar om detta. Jag tror att det är nyckeln till att på allvar få till en förändring -det är de som behöver ta ställning i frågan för att bankerna ska kunna få igenom reklamationerna (och som en mycket positiv sidoeffekt, att betalningsaktörerna och casinona skulle få svart på vitt att det de gör inte är okej och att de faktiskt blir skyldiga att återbetala om de använder felaktiga mcc-koder). Det är HÄR vi borde gå ihop och lägga krutet på.

I hope that the banks have received many card complaints about this. However, I think that getting money back is a small chance.. I just want and wish that there will be something to stop this so that you can have a card without emptying it on the first payday. I was clear to the bank that I do not expect money. I'd rather see this investigated and stopped. I also didn't press that I need the money in the meantime and things like that.

Jag hoppas att bankerna har fått in många kortreklamationer på just detta. Jag tror dock att få pengar tillbaka är liten chans.. Jag vill och önskar bara att det kommer något som stoppar detta så att man kan ha ett kort utan att tömma det första lönedagen. Jag va tydlig mot banken att jag inte förväntar mig pengar. Jag ser hellre att detta utreds och stoppas. Jag tryckte inte heller i att jag behöver pengarna under tiden och sånna saker.

No nothing After sending the document they have never responded or refunded.

Nej inget Efter skickat dokumentet dem har aldrig svarat eller återbetalat.

North Data. Anyone know which payment names are under these?

North Data. Någon som vet vilka betalnings namn som är under dessa ?

Nyss spoke with the gambling inspectorate. I told you that several Swedish companies act as a 3rd party payment operator for these casinos. It sounded like they didn't know what was going on. At least he said I should report it. These companies may not act as a 3rd party without the necessary permits or licenses to do so.

pratade Nyss med spelinspektionen. Jag berättade att flera svenska bolag aggerar som en 3part betaloperatör till dessa casino. Det lät som att dom inte vet vad som pågår. Iallfall han sa att jag skulle anmäla det. Dessa bolag får inte agera som en 3part utan nödvändiga tillstånd eller licenser att göra det.

Did you talk to them over the phone?

Pratade du med dom över telefon?

Hello contact TOPCOM?

Hello contact TOPCOM ?