VPN & etc...

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vor 4 Jahren

Hello,

 

Based on many  casinos/providers restrictions, terms and rules, I would like to open discussion arround VPN. 

 

Do you have any experiences of usage VPN. What do you think about it? 

 

Did you already use VPN anytime?

 

Have you ever been exposed of suspicion VPN usage and have been penalized or blocked? How the casino did control/check/verificate/reviewed their suspicion?

 

Which VPN software do you know and which is the best based on your experiences or knowledge?

Based on substantiated evidence, so far I know only one casino, which in my opinion is one of the best and makes continuous checks on the connection and can detect the use of VPN but I keep it until the discussion.

 

Note that this is an anonymous discussion and you can share not only the personal experiences but also the experiences of your surroundings that you know.

 

I think that this discussion is quite a current and interesting topic at nowadays of "constraints".

 

Thank you for every contribution in advance
 

bozi
vor 4 Jahren

i am located in germany and there are only a few provider that i am not allowed to play...actually merkur blueprint and igt.

so there is not really a need to use a vpn connection at the moment. but i tryed it a few times anyway.

i didn't pay for the vpn connection i used the free vpn option from the opera browser.

in my experience, 98 % of all casinos prohibit the use of vpn. if you still use a vpn connection, there is a risk

that you will not receive your winnings if the casino notices your vpn connection.

 

bozi
vor 4 Jahren

Actually what's the point of using VPN? If the casino restricts your country of residence because of any reason and you bypass it with VPN, then there's a high chance that you won't get paid in case you win something bigger, because the casino would say that your country is restricted. As long as you keep losing, they don't have much reasons to close your account, but once you win something bigger, they have imho right to close your account and void the winnings.

Daniel
vor 4 Jahren

that is true if your country is restricted it make no sense to play in this casino anyway. i think it is more about playing provider that you can't play with your normal connection...some casinos tolerate/allow this.

vor 4 Jahren

It won't let me play keeps saying my email has not be verified when it has 

vor 4 Jahren

Hi Everyone.

I use VPN. 

There was many cases that casinos was blocking me regarding that. 

But in the same time i have a lot of cases that VPN works great.

I using Express VPN and Cyger ghost. These are best on the market.

 

 

vor 4 Jahren

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haykhovv
vor 4 Jahren

How does it work when you need to verify your home address in the casino? Do you send them the proof of address showing that you're from Russia even when Russia is marked as one of the restricted countries on their website?

vor 4 Jahren

Did u try to use VPS instead??

and payout to Skrill or any processor where u don't have to link card

vomvom12
vor 3 Jahren

Sorry for long delay. 

Germany is good location for gambling and I understand you did not need use VPN but others players in different countries are not so lucky as you. Ussualy free VPN(s) are useless and easily to detect. You are right 98% of casinos prohibited VPN but not all of them can find out its use and I think 2% of thousands casinos who do not solve VPN is more than enough :) 
 

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Daniel
vor 3 Jahren

Daniel,

 

of course it is stupid using VPN for casinos where can not be verified as official player and risk of taking winnings or lost  own money.  

 

I know many reasons for using VPN but please keep it mind I  don’t support using VPN where is prohibited but I understand that somebody has not any other choice than use VPN sometimes.

 

There are many casinos which do not allow playing from some jurisdiction but accept players from this territory or next example, casino accept some territory, dont deal with jurisdiction and accept new players from country but IP of country is blocked from unknown reasons (it can be blocked by internet provider based on government-mandated rules  or any other reasons and etc.) and in the last case you can use VPN based on that the casino does not have VPN usage prohibited and you can play any games or providers what you wish and without VPN are not usualy available for you.

haykhovv
vor 3 Jahren

Hello, 

Agree with CyberGhost, working great. 

Please could you let me know which casinos were blocked you based on using VPN? How they found out? What form of confrontation did they use after a suspicion?? 

vor 3 Jahren

From my personal experience and opinion is realy difficult detect VPN connection. "Somebody" often used VPN for many different testing of website in past and I've never seen a pernament ban and deleted account. I have only one experience with casino suspicion but casino had not any clear proof of use VPN and was not able enforce their rules and asked for additional verification which was not change anything indeed.

 

Let's put together the facts of VPN, possibilities of detection and etc.

 

Lots of VPNs use cloud service providers to host their servers and if a site wanted to, they could just detect that the connection isn't coming from a domestic/retail ISP. It's easy to say if a connection is coming from Amazon or someone like that.

There are also lists a site can buy which can tell them which IP ranges come from known VPNs.

Finally, if it is a VPN coming from an unknown source, can you detect it? Badly. You can detect long latency in connections which indicate its been routed around and not direct, this is more useful when you want to detect someone in another country.

There NO way to determine this automatically with 100% accuracy about using VPN. So what they do is to check users IP address manually, and if they belong to a data center instead of residential IPs, they assume that the user is connecting from a VPN. They tag these data center names and run an IP whois check from now on to find other users connecting from similar data centers and block.

This is a similar practice with blacklisting VPN providers. Instead of VPN providers, they are actually blacklisting data center IPs.

Remember that those websites can execute code on your browser (either Flash or Javascript).

When this happens they can read the network configuration of your computer.

Now, it doesn’t matter if you use a firewall or not. The configuration is there for them to read.

 

You may get smarter though: instead of installing a VPN interface on the machine where you are actually doing, you may install it between your machine and the internet.

 

You can do so in two ways:

 

1. By installing a VPN client directly in your router, or

2. Creating a virtual machine within your computer, installing the VPN client in your real machine and playing in your virtual one.

 

By doing so, no one will be able to understand if you are using a VPN or not, unless of course they black-list the VPN’s IP addresses.

vor 3 Jahren

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vor 4 Jahren

Hi Everyone.

I use VPN. 

There was many cases that casinos was blocking me regarding that. 

But in the same time i have a lot of cases that VPN works great.

I using Express VPN and Cyger ghost. These are best on the market.

 

 

vor 3 Jahren

Express VPN ist für sich genommen aktiviert und funktioniert gut.

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paulish
vor 3 Jahren

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PeerGame Casino
vor 3 Jahren

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vor 3 Jahren

The point of using the VPN is not only for hiding your location, but also for security reason. Are the VPN refused in online casinos in general, or I would be ok if I am located in Sweden and use Sweden VPN location?

bozi
vor 1 Jahr


As I'm currently in Russia it's very actual for me to use VPN, and I really tried nearly every single VPN, so now I'm using Urban VPN and trying some from Cooltechzone like Nordwind or CyberGhost couse they're approved by this site and now I really desperate ready to download everything in a row

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